Can't Compare Kobe and MJ Written by Scottie Pippen 中文翻譯：Xail
In the era when Michael played, it was a physical game. Defense was promoted.
Guys took pride in it. Today defense is no longer a part of the game. Guys
are driving to the basket. There are rules where you can't step in front of them. To me, it is taking away from the game seeing a guy like Tony Parker taking advantage of the rules. He is shooting 55 percent from the field. That says something about the game itself. In the history of the NBA, I'm sure a point guard has never led the league in field goal percentage. It's a different game now. It's really not about being tough and physical because the NBA isn't a physical game anymore. When you talk about how the Knicks and Bulls used to battle in the early '90s, the Oakleys, and Pat Ewings, the Masons, and how they would have the ability to use their hands to put you in a trap position. There is no way you can even triple team a guy now and stop him. Any contact is a foul. I can't compare the two players because I see it as two different games. If I'm guarding Kobe Bryant in today's game, I couldn't be the defender I was known as.
The defensive rules, the hand checking, the ability to make contact on a guy
in certain areas, the ability to come over in the lane to stop guys from
getting to the basket, that's all been taken away from the game. There is no
contact up on the floor. The way I played Magic Johnson in the '91 Finals,
I would have fouled out the first time down court. To compare how someone
would have played Michael Jordan, Chuck Daly would send someone to wear him
down. Even though he may get 30 or 40 points, they're going to be a hard 30
points. But in today's game, you can't put that physical wear and tear on a
guy. It's a free ball type of game. If you are shooting it well, you can score
80, as you've seen because you are going to get to the foul line.
Officials have very quick whistles now because they're promoting scoring.
Let's not forget, three years ago, this league was trying to figure out how
they could get the scoring back up, how they could drive the fans back into
loving the game, and this is what they were building on. They changed the
field of rules. Those rules are huge in the game today. They benefit the
perimeter guy. Back in the day, you may get one guy to score 40 points in a
month. When Michael Jordan scored 40, it was all over the front page of a
newspaper. Now you can pretty much have 40 points at halftime. Until the
league went and changed the rules and tried to get some of that bully ball
out, you couldn't come out and perform like that every night. The game was
too physical. You were too sore the next day and you were just tired and
physically worn down. The game seems so fun and free now. Guys are making
a living just standing out there shooting jumpers.
If you want to say that Kobe could get 100, I would say that Michael could
get 100. If Kobe could get 81, I think Michael could get 100 in today's game.
I think the psychological style that Michael was able to master in the game,
puts him far beyond Kobe. But Kobe's youthfulness has put him in a position
where it looks like he is overtaking Michael. Kobe has 10 years in this league.
That is a lot of experience to have and still be a very youthful player.
I would love to see what would have happened the other night if the rules had
been the same as in past years. Kobe is as close to being like Mike as anybody,
but you can't make the comparisons anymore. Tracy McGrady can probably, from
a numbers standpoint, put up the numbers Michael Jordan put up. He has that
type of ability. Dirk Nowitzki can put up those kinds of numbers. The game is
built for those guys to put those shots up. If they get touched, they get to
the foul line. I would say Kobe is the most polished of all of them as far as
being able to handle the ball and create his own shot and opportunity. But
this is what the game is going to turn into. Guys are going to start to score
40 points regularly. It may become an average.
I don't think Kobe will get 100. What he did is what like Wilt did, a once in
a lifetime experience. Given the fact that he shot a heck of a percentage it
could have been better, but I don't think he still could have gotten to 100.
It would almost have to be perfect and the game would have to go to overtime.
I think a lot of things would have to come into play for him to get that.
With that said, I am sure Phil doesn't want to coach that type of game. It's
not his style. I don't expect it to happen again. Phil will probably do
everything in his power to make sure it doesn't. I don't think Phil is going
to try to promote what Kobe has done more than anything because he has
damaged his whole team. You just scored 81 points. Do you need your teammates?
Are they going to step up when you need them or are you going to continue to
pound them like you've been doing and be selfish just to get some individual
accolades?
From a leadership perspective I think Kobe has taken a step back. Look at
what he has to live up to now. You just scored 81 points. If you scored 81
points, your team should pretty much go out and win at least 75 percent of
their games the rest of the year. Is that fair to say? You just compared
yourself to Wilt. Can you go out with your team and do that or are you just
going to go out and score tons of points every night? Are you going to get
back to the point where you are shooting a lot of shots and you're teammates
are not shooting and you're losing?
Right now, Kobe has willed the Lakers to a 22-19 record. It will be interesting
to see what happens the rest of the way.
不能比較Kobe和MJ─他們所身處的年代是完全不同的
在某個晚上，Kobe Bryant在與暴龍隊的比賽中得了81分，的確是難以置信的；但是，將Kobe的生涯成就、或者是像那場比賽的事情，拿來和Michael Jordan比較，是不公平的。
在Michael打球的年代，那是一個〝肢體〞的比賽─防守的重視，而球員們也都引以為傲。然而在今天，防守已經不再是比賽的一部份。許多傢伙都往籃框飛，而規則使得你不能擋在他們的面前。對於我來說，〝佔規則的便宜〞最好的例子，就是一個叫做Tony Parker的傢伙，他擁有55%的投籃命中率。我很確定，在NBA的歷史上，一個控球後衛是不會在命中率榜上名列前矛的。現在已經是不同的比賽方式，真的已經不是強壯而肢體的比賽了。在九○年代早期，尼克隊和公牛隊習以為常的〝戰鬥〞，Oakley、Ewing、Mason…以及他們如何將你放到圈套裡的防守技巧…現在，已經沒有方法能夠三人包夾一個人，任何的接觸都是犯規。我無法比較這兩個球員，因為我覺得他們在打的是不同的比賽。如果今天晚上防守Kobe Bryant的人是我，我想，我也不會是我自己所認識的那位防守者了。
防守的規則、點手、在特定區域進行身體接觸的技能、阻擋住進攻籃框的傢伙們行進路線的技能，在今日的比賽中已不復見─在場上已經沒有碰撞。換做是我在91年的總冠軍賽時防守Magic Johnson的那種方法，也許在第一次過半場的時候我就犯滿畢業了。拿這樣的例子，來套用在曾經和Michael Jordan對陣的人身上，Chuck Daly鐵定會派某個人讓他精疲力竭。即使他得了三十或四十分，那會是一個很累人的三十分或四十分。但是在今天的比賽中，你不能將那樣的摩擦和撕扯加諸於那個人身上。這是一個罰球比賽，當你預見你會走向罰球線的時候，如果你夠準，你可以得到八十分，。
為了提高得分，現在的裁判們響哨的速度非常快。別忘了，三年前，這個聯盟正在想辦法要如何才能夠提高得分，要如何把觀眾帶回來並繼續〝Love This Game〞，而這就是他們所想要建造的結果。他們從規則的層面去修改，而那些被修改的規則，對今日比賽的影響是非常巨大的，他們把這樣的優惠送給了那些還不夠資格被稱為頂尖的球員們。在過去，大概一個月可以看到個人獨得四十分的比賽一次，當Michael Jordan得到四十分，報紙的頭條就全是他了；但是現在，有幾個人在半場就可以得到四十分。如果聯盟將那些規則改變並且把那些欺負人的投籃給抽掉，你絕對不可能每晚都有那樣的表現。當時的比賽是如此的物理，你在隔天很可能會因為酸痛而疲勞，並導致身體的狀況下降。現在的比賽看起來是如此的歡樂與自由，球員們只需要靠站在那兒跳投就能夠過活。
如果你想說Kobe可能可以得到100分，我會說，Michael也可能可以得到100分；如果Kobe得到81分，我想Michael可以在今天的比賽中得到100分。我認為Michael的心智風格，是他之所以能夠主宰比賽，同時也是他在遠遠在Kobe之上的理由。但是因為Kobe的年輕少壯，讓別人覺得他〝看起來〞已經超越Michael。Kobe在聯盟裡面待了十年，除了代表他已經累積了許多經驗之外，也代表他仍然還是個年輕的球員。
我很想看看，如果在那個〝某個夜晚〞，是在過去的規則之下進行的比賽，會發生什麼樣的事。Kobe是比任何人都更像Mike的球員，但是你不能再拿他們來做比較了。用數據上的觀點來看，Tracy McGrady也許可以達成Michael所達到的數字，Dirk Nowitzki或許也可以─這個比賽，是為了讓這些傢伙們能夠投進更多球，而被塑造出來的。如果他們被觸摸到，他們就可以上罰球線。我之所以會會說Kobe是他們之中最亮眼的，是因為他能夠掌握並控制球，進而創造自己的投籃機會。但是，這就是現在的比賽；對他們來說，四十分漸漸變成家常便飯。也許，四十分會變成平均成績，而非哪場表現突出的單場得分。
我不認為Kobe能夠得到100分。他所做到的情況和Wilt一樣，是一生一次的經驗。的確，即使他能夠表現的比那天的命中率更鬼，我仍舊不相信他能夠達成100分。那也許將會是近乎完美的比賽，並且很可能要加上延長賽。我想，他還必須克服許多東西，才能夠達到那樣的成績。
接在剛剛說的之後，我非常確定Phil並不想要在這樣的比賽中擔任教練。這不是他的風格，而我也不期待這種比賽再發生，也許Phil本人也會盡一切力量來確保它不會。我不認為Phil會試著把Kobe的成就擺在任何事情之上，因為他已經嚴重的傷害了他的球隊。當你得了81分，你還需要其他隊友嗎？他們應該在你需要他們的時候站出來，還是放任你繼續踐踏他們─像你已經做的那樣自私、只為了贏得一些屬於個人的掌聲？
從領導者的觀點，我認為Kobe在走回頭路。看看他現在必須要做的吧！你剛剛得到了81分，如果你得了81分，你的球隊在這個球季剩下的比賽中，也許應該要贏至少75%以上的比賽。這樣說公不公平呢？你剛剛將自己比擬Wilt，那麼你是要和你的隊伍一起達成，還是你只是準備要在每個晚上得一大堆分數？難道你想回到過去，那個當你出手非常多次而隊友們沒機會出手，然後你們輸球的那個時間點？
現在，Kobe帶領著湖人隊打出了22-19的戰績，看看接下來的路上會發生什麼，將會是件非常有趣的事情。
In the era when Michael played, it was a physical game. Defense was promoted.
Guys took pride in it. Today defense is no longer a part of the game. Guys
are driving to the basket. There are rules where you can't step in front of them. To me, it is taking away from the game seeing a guy like Tony Parker taking advantage of the rules. He is shooting 55 percent from the field. That says something about the game itself. In the history of the NBA, I'm sure a point guard has never led the league in field goal percentage. It's a different game now. It's really not about being tough and physical because the NBA isn't a physical game anymore. When you talk about how the Knicks and Bulls used to battle in the early '90s, the Oakleys, and Pat Ewings, the Masons, and how they would have the ability to use their hands to put you in a trap position. There is no way you can even triple team a guy now and stop him. Any contact is a foul. I can't compare the two players because I see it as two different games. If I'm guarding Kobe Bryant in today's game, I couldn't be the defender I was known as.
The defensive rules, the hand checking, the ability to make contact on a guy
in certain areas, the ability to come over in the lane to stop guys from
getting to the basket, that's all been taken away from the game. There is no
contact up on the floor. The way I played Magic Johnson in the '91 Finals,
I would have fouled out the first time down court. To compare how someone
would have played Michael Jordan, Chuck Daly would send someone to wear him
down. Even though he may get 30 or 40 points, they're going to be a hard 30
points. But in today's game, you can't put that physical wear and tear on a
guy. It's a free ball type of game. If you are shooting it well, you can score
80, as you've seen because you are going to get to the foul line.
Officials have very quick whistles now because they're promoting scoring.
Let's not forget, three years ago, this league was trying to figure out how
they could get the scoring back up, how they could drive the fans back into
loving the game, and this is what they were building on. They changed the
field of rules. Those rules are huge in the game today. They benefit the
perimeter guy. Back in the day, you may get one guy to score 40 points in a
month. When Michael Jordan scored 40, it was all over the front page of a
newspaper. Now you can pretty much have 40 points at halftime. Until the
league went and changed the rules and tried to get some of that bully ball
out, you couldn't come out and perform like that every night. The game was
too physical. You were too sore the next day and you were just tired and
physically worn down. The game seems so fun and free now. Guys are making
a living just standing out there shooting jumpers.
If you want to say that Kobe could get 100, I would say that Michael could
get 100. If Kobe could get 81, I think Michael could get 100 in today's game.
I think the psychological style that Michael was able to master in the game,
puts him far beyond Kobe. But Kobe's youthfulness has put him in a position
where it looks like he is overtaking Michael. Kobe has 10 years in this league.
That is a lot of experience to have and still be a very youthful player.
I would love to see what would have happened the other night if the rules had
been the same as in past years. Kobe is as close to being like Mike as anybody,
but you can't make the comparisons anymore. Tracy McGrady can probably, from
a numbers standpoint, put up the numbers Michael Jordan put up. He has that
type of ability. Dirk Nowitzki can put up those kinds of numbers. The game is
built for those guys to put those shots up. If they get touched, they get to
the foul line. I would say Kobe is the most polished of all of them as far as
being able to handle the ball and create his own shot and opportunity. But
this is what the game is going to turn into. Guys are going to start to score
40 points regularly. It may become an average.
I don't think Kobe will get 100. What he did is what like Wilt did, a once in
a lifetime experience. Given the fact that he shot a heck of a percentage it
could have been better, but I don't think he still could have gotten to 100.
It would almost have to be perfect and the game would have to go to overtime.
I think a lot of things would have to come into play for him to get that.
With that said, I am sure Phil doesn't want to coach that type of game. It's
not his style. I don't expect it to happen again. Phil will probably do
everything in his power to make sure it doesn't. I don't think Phil is going
to try to promote what Kobe has done more than anything because he has
damaged his whole team. You just scored 81 points. Do you need your teammates?
Are they going to step up when you need them or are you going to continue to
pound them like you've been doing and be selfish just to get some individual
accolades?
From a leadership perspective I think Kobe has taken a step back. Look at
what he has to live up to now. You just scored 81 points. If you scored 81
points, your team should pretty much go out and win at least 75 percent of
their games the rest of the year. Is that fair to say? You just compared
yourself to Wilt. Can you go out with your team and do that or are you just
going to go out and score tons of points every night? Are you going to get
back to the point where you are shooting a lot of shots and you're teammates
are not shooting and you're losing?
Right now, Kobe has willed the Lakers to a 22-19 record. It will be interesting
to see what happens the rest of the way.
不能比較Kobe和MJ─他們所身處的年代是完全不同的
在某個晚上，Kobe Bryant在與暴龍隊的比賽中得了81分，的確是難以置信的；但是，將Kobe的生涯成就、或者是像那場比賽的事情，拿來和Michael Jordan比較，是不公平的。
在Michael打球的年代，那是一個〝肢體〞的比賽─防守的重視，而球員們也都引以為傲。然而在今天，防守已經不再是比賽的一部份。許多傢伙都往籃框飛，而規則使得你不能擋在他們的面前。對於我來說，〝佔規則的便宜〞最好的例子，就是一個叫做Tony Parker的傢伙，他擁有55%的投籃命中率。我很確定，在NBA的歷史上，一個控球後衛是不會在命中率榜上名列前矛的。現在已經是不同的比賽方式，真的已經不是強壯而肢體的比賽了。在九○年代早期，尼克隊和公牛隊習以為常的〝戰鬥〞，Oakley、Ewing、Mason…以及他們如何將你放到圈套裡的防守技巧…現在，已經沒有方法能夠三人包夾一個人，任何的接觸都是犯規。我無法比較這兩個球員，因為我覺得他們在打的是不同的比賽。如果今天晚上防守Kobe Bryant的人是我，我想，我也不會是我自己所認識的那位防守者了。
防守的規則、點手、在特定區域進行身體接觸的技能、阻擋住進攻籃框的傢伙們行進路線的技能，在今日的比賽中已不復見─在場上已經沒有碰撞。換做是我在91年的總冠軍賽時防守Magic Johnson的那種方法，也許在第一次過半場的時候我就犯滿畢業了。拿這樣的例子，來套用在曾經和Michael Jordan對陣的人身上，Chuck Daly鐵定會派某個人讓他精疲力竭。即使他得了三十或四十分，那會是一個很累人的三十分或四十分。但是在今天的比賽中，你不能將那樣的摩擦和撕扯加諸於那個人身上。這是一個罰球比賽，當你預見你會走向罰球線的時候，如果你夠準，你可以得到八十分，。
為了提高得分，現在的裁判們響哨的速度非常快。別忘了，三年前，這個聯盟正在想辦法要如何才能夠提高得分，要如何把觀眾帶回來並繼續〝Love This Game〞，而這就是他們所想要建造的結果。他們從規則的層面去修改，而那些被修改的規則，對今日比賽的影響是非常巨大的，他們把這樣的優惠送給了那些還不夠資格被稱為頂尖的球員們。在過去，大概一個月可以看到個人獨得四十分的比賽一次，當Michael Jordan得到四十分，報紙的頭條就全是他了；但是現在，有幾個人在半場就可以得到四十分。如果聯盟將那些規則改變並且把那些欺負人的投籃給抽掉，你絕對不可能每晚都有那樣的表現。當時的比賽是如此的物理，你在隔天很可能會因為酸痛而疲勞，並導致身體的狀況下降。現在的比賽看起來是如此的歡樂與自由，球員們只需要靠站在那兒跳投就能夠過活。
如果你想說Kobe可能可以得到100分，我會說，Michael也可能可以得到100分；如果Kobe得到81分，我想Michael可以在今天的比賽中得到100分。我認為Michael的心智風格，是他之所以能夠主宰比賽，同時也是他在遠遠在Kobe之上的理由。但是因為Kobe的年輕少壯，讓別人覺得他〝看起來〞已經超越Michael。Kobe在聯盟裡面待了十年，除了代表他已經累積了許多經驗之外，也代表他仍然還是個年輕的球員。
我很想看看，如果在那個〝某個夜晚〞，是在過去的規則之下進行的比賽，會發生什麼樣的事。Kobe是比任何人都更像Mike的球員，但是你不能再拿他們來做比較了。用數據上的觀點來看，Tracy McGrady也許可以達成Michael所達到的數字，Dirk Nowitzki或許也可以─這個比賽，是為了讓這些傢伙們能夠投進更多球，而被塑造出來的。如果他們被觸摸到，他們就可以上罰球線。我之所以會會說Kobe是他們之中最亮眼的，是因為他能夠掌握並控制球，進而創造自己的投籃機會。但是，這就是現在的比賽；對他們來說，四十分漸漸變成家常便飯。也許，四十分會變成平均成績，而非哪場表現突出的單場得分。
我不認為Kobe能夠得到100分。他所做到的情況和Wilt一樣，是一生一次的經驗。的確，即使他能夠表現的比那天的命中率更鬼，我仍舊不相信他能夠達成100分。那也許將會是近乎完美的比賽，並且很可能要加上延長賽。我想，他還必須克服許多東西，才能夠達到那樣的成績。
接在剛剛說的之後，我非常確定Phil並不想要在這樣的比賽中擔任教練。這不是他的風格，而我也不期待這種比賽再發生，也許Phil本人也會盡一切力量來確保它不會。我不認為Phil會試著把Kobe的成就擺在任何事情之上，因為他已經嚴重的傷害了他的球隊。當你得了81分，你還需要其他隊友嗎？他們應該在你需要他們的時候站出來，還是放任你繼續踐踏他們─像你已經做的那樣自私、只為了贏得一些屬於個人的掌聲？
從領導者的觀點，我認為Kobe在走回頭路。看看他現在必須要做的吧！你剛剛得到了81分，如果你得了81分，你的球隊在這個球季剩下的比賽中，也許應該要贏至少75%以上的比賽。這樣說公不公平呢？你剛剛將自己比擬Wilt，那麼你是要和你的隊伍一起達成，還是你只是準備要在每個晚上得一大堆分數？難道你想回到過去，那個當你出手非常多次而隊友們沒機會出手，然後你們輸球的那個時間點？
現在，Kobe帶領著湖人隊打出了22-19的戰績，看看接下來的路上會發生什麼，將會是件非常有趣的事情。
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